Horse Who is Nervous / Afraid of Longeing and Whips
November 6, 2011 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under On Target Training, On The Ground
This question was posted on my Facebook page and I thought this will help some of you who have similar issues. Please let me know if you have questions or comments!
QUESTION: Carrie asks:
Hi, i’m hoping you can help as my daughter needs a bit of advice. My friend has bought a Welsh Sec D 4yr old mare, she was apparently broken though i think to fast to soon. Two wks ago she bucked my friends husband off, for apparently no reason. My Georgie, is starting from the beginning, by backing her again & doing things very slowly. Millie the mare doesn’t have a nasty bone in her body but she gets scared very easily which makes us wonder what was done to her in her short life. She was sold as a yearling at the Welsh sales by the breeder, a friends granddaughter bought her, but they are a bit heavy handed which makes me wonder just what they did to her. She will lunge on the left rein but is terrified on the right, also terrified of any whips, to the point i think she has been hit badly hit by one. What can you suggest to take her forward successfully. xx
ANSWER: Ask Shawna-On Target Training says:
Hi Carrie, I am so glad Millie is with you. She will make real strides and I have found the horses who have been through tough times often become the most devoted students when you shift to positive reinforcement. You are on the right track. Start her like she is learning it for the first time but this time slower and let her get her head around each step. Remember to never move to the next step until she is solid on the previous step. enjoy the journey with her. Lot’s of ground work will help to earn her trust.
If you haven’t already, I would suggest having your veterinarian check her out to be sure she isn’t having some physical discomfort before you proceed any further. This will only add to her unpleasant association with working and people if she does have some pain. I always prefer to rule this out first.
She sounds like the type of her horse who may stand quietly on the outside while inside she may be quite worried and even fearful. Watch for any signs of relaxation. Her eye, nostrils and ears to soften. Look for her head to lower a bit and neck muscles to relax. Click and reinforce (C/R) her for this and she will start to offer it more often. This behavior will serve itself since she will be relieved to be able to relax. You can click and reinforce this anytime you see her offer this behavior. Always keep an eye out for signs of relaxation. I can’t imagine how horrible it must feel to not understand what is going on around you and yet fear the repercussions of your not knowing. A clear training program shouldn’t be scary but encouraging. You will gain her trust.
I think the whip should serve as an extension of our hands and shouldn’t be someting used to instill fear. Teaching her to touch the whip may help her to acclimate to it a bit too. You can do this like teaching her to target. It may also help to have her follow the whip. Sometimes having the whip retreat helps her to feel that she is pursuing it and it isn’t pursuing her. This often changes the mind set and builds boldness. You don’t want to over train the targeting on the whip. We just want her to learn it has several purposes and they are all safe. You got off to a good start and I suggest follow through with that desensitization training you have started with the whip touching her all over.
As far as longeing goes, I suggest you start with her on a lead rope. I suggest not using longeing equipment at first. The equipment may trigger the fear she has with longeing to the right so let’s not go there yet. Ask her to go the good way (to her left) at a walk and reinforce her for responding correctly. I would suggest using your hand and raise it slow and calm toward her barrel (where the leg will eventually be asking her to move forward) I would suggest using an auditory cue like a cluck as well. This may help to communicate what you are asking. You may also use a target for the early stages and ask her to follow the target (with her nose) as well as moving off of your hand and cluck. This may help her to focus more on the target then the scary aspects of longeing. I say your hand but I mean Georgie’s hand!
I know she is good on this side but it will help her learn this new fun training is in effect and build up a new better association with this behavior. Next, I would start just leading her from the other side reinforce her for walking nicely. Next step back a little and slowly, calmly and confidently raise your hand slightly toward her barrel(cluck) and ask her to walk on just a little. It is like a micro longeing session. As soon as she walks forward and relaxes a little bit C/R. Feed her handsomely for this. You are going to be rebuilding a new reinforcement history with this right side. You will rebalance the scales so instead of fear she knows what to do and she looks forward to it since there may be something in it for her that she values. I would keep these sessions short and sweet. Sometimes it even helps to ask her with a smile on your face. It sounds kind of weird but it can change our subtle body language. Believe me she is paying attention to the subtlest changes in her humans and smiling often times changes us from intense to more relaxed. Later we will re-introduce the whip and faster gaits but for now I would suggest working on getting the walk solid. I suggest pogressing like this through the next portions as well.
This is where I suggest you start. I wish I was there and could watch as you progress but I know you and Georgie are going to do great. Horse’s being individuals sometimes respond a little differently and need some adjustments in training. Please keep me posted. I am here to help every step of the way if you need it!
Do You Wish Your Horse Had More Confidence?
September 29, 2011 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Ask Shawna, On Target Training, On The Ground
I’m really excited!! The next FREE video on de-spooking your horse is up! Today we move onto introducing William to a new object. I am using a cluster of milk jugs for this exercise. I’m so proud of how much more confident William already is.
I know this next video will give you some great ideas for building confidence in your horse. It’s such a great feeling. I can’t wait to hear your success stories!
CLICK HERE: Do You Wish Your Horse Had More Confidence?
Enjoy getting your horse On Target!!
P.S. If you know of someone that could use some help de-spooking their horse or building boldness and confidence,
please feel free to pass this link onto them too!
CLICK HERE: Do You Wish Your Horse Had More Confidence?
Is Your Horse Trustworthy?
September 28, 2011 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Ask Shawna, Clicker and Target Issues, On Target Training
I am so pleased with all the interest in the De-spooking video series. I know you are on your way to great success and it will result in a more confident horse. If you haven’t had a chance to check out these complimentary videos, go here now:
CLICK HERE: Is Your Horse Trustworthy?
In the first video I work with Lucky Jack to demonstrate the basics. In the next video I move to ground work with William. I switched horses because William already knew the early part of the training and I really wanted you to see how to teach these manners with a brand new horse. After all, that is probably more what you will experience with your horse. I knew William would be more reactive to the ground work so I wanted to work through the more challenging lessons with him. So stay tuned.
Video 2 – Ground Work will be posted tomorrow, September 29. I would really love to hear your thoughts or questions as you follow along. Also, if you know of someone who may be interested in teaching their horse to be bolder and more confident please pass this on to them! If you haven’t had a chance to watch yet you can still join in. Just go to the link above.
And a big “Thank You” to you for tuning in. Pretty soon you are going to have yourself a trustworthy horse….what could feel better than that?
Remember, enjoy getting your horse On Target!!
Shawna
Ask Shawna: Proper Paddock Manners & Relaxation (w/Overview of the Basics)
September 26, 2011 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Ask Shawna, Clicker and Target Issues, On Target Training, On The Ground
Video answer: I address how to teach a horse to walk quietly on the way to the paddock and when being released for turn out. Jeffery has an Arab who gets too excited, bolts and doesn’t know to rein in her energy. This is an issue that comes up often with horse owners. The good news is: This is very easy to fix using positive reinforcement (clicker training). By putting something into the training equation that your horse truly values, you will get her to be an active participant in the re-training process. If you are there most everyday you can get it under control in about a week once you have the basics trained (clicker and target). If you go to the barn less often it may take longer for the reinforcement history to be established. It is really a matter of repetition vs. duration when it comes to this type of training. The horses remember these lessons for years. So she won’t forget what you have taught her if you get to the barn more sporadically.
You can also work on her relaxation in all that she does. Focus on reinforcing her when ever you feel or see her relax or soften, even the slightest bit. The beauty of the clicker is that it is a great tool for communication (at Sea World we used a whistle). While you will most likely not be able to offer reinforcement her at the exact moment she does something you like, you will be able to book mark that moment with the sound of the clicker. Once she knows the clicker it will be a sound she will strive to hear. The clicker tells her “yes, what you just did is correct and you have earned yourself the potential for a reward” So always click on the behavior that you want to see more of and follow it up with a reward. If you always click when she is relaxed or in the process of relaxing she will put together that all clicks(read: Reinforcements) come when she is calm. That is the attitude that will soon be the norm for her. As you see this change in her demeanor you can then begin to fade out the clicker and the high reinforcement schedule.
If you don’t know about the clicker or target portion of the training don’t worry it is simple and your horse will enjoy it. It teaches your horse to be patient about the reinforcement, establishes a solid form of communication, the target gives you a way to help set her up for success when walking to the paddock. In addition, the task of targeting teaches her to think and become engaged in the learning process. This early training also strengthens the trust and focus that she has on you. This new focus and desire to please you will have a profound impact on your relationship with your horse. It doesn’t take long, about 10 minutes a day for 3 or 4 days. You can do the training where they live whether it be paddock or stall. For more on this watch for a FREE 3-part video series I have coming out in the next couple days. It is on spookiness and shying but it also addresses the basic lessons of clicker and target training. The first video is the one that covers this simple and fun process. If you are on my mailing list you will get a link for the video sent to you. Okay Jeffery, I hope this has helped you out. I know that you will be quite pleased with her progress. Thank you for letting me offer assistance. Please keep me updated and if you have more questions as you progress, please don’t hesitate to ask. Enjoy getting your horse On Target!
Ask Shawna Answer: Catching the Horse Who Doesn’t Want to be Caught
June 15, 2011 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Ask Shawna, On The Ground
In this video answer I address the horse who avoids being caught or who panics once caught. It is a quick and easy process to rebalance the scales and have your horse coming to you!!
Bugs First Tarp Session
April 8, 2011 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Bugs' Blog - A Resurrected Rescue Horse, Clicker and Target Issues, On The Ground
This video is from my helmet cam and shows Bugs first exposure to the tarp. The positive reinforcement training has gone along way toward building his confidence with new objects. How is your horse with new objects?
Another quote from Han Senn
February 12, 2011 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Han Senn Inspiration, On Target Training
As soon as the horse feels the rider’s distraction, he will promptly join in.
–Hans Senn–
Author of those great Quotes: Han Senn Bio
December 30, 2010 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Han Senn Inspiration, On Target Training
I was asked “Who is this Hans Senn?” I have been posting some of his quotes…because I love them!! So here is a story about the author:
“Riding and competing in Switzerland, Austria, Italy, France and Germany gave Hans a broad exposure of different styles, methods and philosophies.
Hans came to the USA in 1952 where he became active in show jumping, dressage, eventing and fox hunting. He also learned to ride show hunters and competed many years in the Midwest, Florida, Devon and the indoor circuit.
Eventually, Hans started to judge hunters, jumpers, equitation, dressage and became a course designer.
In 1990, he was the coordinator of the Equestrian Events of the Olympic Festival.”
Sadly, Hans passed away a few months (or so) ago.
My Hunter/Jumper trainer and good friend Marcy Gehrke rode with Hans when she was young. She is responsible for getting me hooked on his little book of wisdom. So, I will continue to post his quotes as there are a ton of great ones in there!!
Bugs: A Horse with Big Shoes to Fill!
December 14, 2010 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Bugs' Blog - A Resurrected Rescue Horse, On Target Training
December, 14, 2010
Bugs is like a big kid. Bugs has been with me since early last spring. He is a 7 year old, 16.3 Chestnut appendix quarter horse. Both his dam and sire were appendix so he has his fair share of thoroughbred in him. I love this about him, since I have a real affinity for thoroughbreds. Mint is a thoroughbred you know. And you know I love my Mint! Mint has been my shining example of positive reinforcement. He has a huge repertoire of behaviors both from the ground and undersaddle. He embodies On Target Training with his huge heart and great disposition. He is a pleasure for anyone to be around and I hear it from people all the time. He is light and responsive in the saddle, making me feel like a highly effective rider even on my worst day. This is what I wanted, another Mint! Of course, this is not how Mint started out.
Let’s start with Bugs beginnings… He was in a pasture with very little interaction until he was 4 years old. That is a long time. There is a window when young horses are very trainable and then there is a time when they are more set in their ways. Bugs kinda missed that window. At 4 he was taken from the pasture and it was decided he was going to be a roping horse. Talk about a square peg in a round hole. Needless to say this didn’t go so well for Bugs. I don’t know all of the details but he came away with a scar on his face and a suspicious disposition.
My friend Marcy had been around Bugs and saw that he wasn’t going down a good path. He was off to the horse auction. She stepped in and took him to her barn, which is a hunter/jumper barn. This is not something that Marcy had done before. She was not sure how this would end or where he was going to go, she just felt it in her heart to give him a chance. For the next couple of years he was in a low pressure program and taught the basics. It was clear to her that he really wanted to please but he still needed a gentle touch. She had invested too much to just let anyone have him and felt somewhat protective of her charge.
This is when I enter the picture. Due to personal reasons Mint had been turned out for 7 years and I had barely ridden. Mint was newly out of retirement but he is getting older and I thought it was time to have a new addition, not only for riding but for the positive reinforcement training. I asked her about buying a horse. Marcy saw a potentially good fit with me and Bugs. I dusted off my chaps and showed up at Marcy’s barn to try Bugs. I wasn’t on him for a minute when he spooked and wheeled. Poof, I’m on the ground. Me being newly back in the saddle, my seat wasn’t real solid. He ended up by the rail, as I went to go get him he was visibly trembling with fear, afraid of the repercussions.
At that instant, I knew he was meant for me. It broke my heart to see him so worried. I knew I had the tools to help him. Now, this is not how one should choose their horses. Bugs had been doing great with Jenn, who rides for Marcy. He felt safe with Jenn and his routine. This, clearly, did not carry over to me.
Marcy, being the voice of reason, wouldn’t let me make a decision until I spent more time with Bugs. He came to the barn where I was boarding. He showed me how suspicious he seemed to feel in the new situation. He broke through two leather halters in two days by pulling back in the cross ties. I never became disheartened and he began to trust me and even more, to look forward to time with me. When I would pull up in my truck both of my horses would start whinnying. I got some riding in but not on a consistent basis. I knew we were moving to a new barn in October, a really nice barn I might add. Marcy is the trainer at the new barn and we were getting into a riding/training program together and utilizing the positive reinforcement. We are both doing great and making great strides. Bugs is growing up!!
Patty, who owns the barn was hosting an elaborate Christmas party the other day at the barn. This meant trucks and workmen were everywhere. They were decorating, hanging plastic to tent the barn areas, putting in a dance floor, bar, hanging lights and bringing in a mechanical bull. This was seemed to be sheer terror for some horses(and rider’s). But Bugs was totally sensible and calm. He made me feel really proud. I think Bugs is a great edition to On Target Training. We have a lot to learn together but he, like Mint, is showing that love of learning and growing a big heart. There is a part of me that wanted him to be all done, just like Mint is now, and then I realized what a great journey it is and wondered why it is I always want to hurry. Bugs will never be just like Mint, but that is fine with me, he is going to be just like Bugs and that is shaping up to be great news. He is a Blessing and I am ever thankful that he is in my life. Bugs has a shining future and I look forward to the journey that lies ahead of us.
Progress in training – Hans Senn
November 23, 2010 by Shawna Karrasch
Filed under Han Senn Inspiration, On Target Training
Correct training makes a horse systematically better. Training should be progressive; however, it is better to progress one year too late than one day too early. More demands may produce more resistance. Sometimes it is wiser to reach a temporary compromise and look for a solution later than provoke a major problem. Give your horse the benefit of the doubt. Go slowly.
- Hans Senn
